Dr. Mati: Hello! How are you Dr. Singh?

Dr. Singh: I am fine Dr.

Dr. Mati: So, what we have for today?

Dr. Singh: Today we are going to talk about Thuja. How can you describe the personality of Thuja patient?

Dr. Mati: Thuja is a difficult personality to understand. Thuja doesn’t really want to be in this dimension for whatever reason. They are fragile, touchy and sensitive with an unusual sense of beauty, and this world is way too harsh and intimidating for them. Not only do they not really want to be here, but they don’t really understand how anything works here, either. This is why they have such a hard time coping at times, and it is also why their reactions can be a bit strange at times.

I see Thuja as a person who is more connected to other dimensions. They are almost always interested in the metaphysical or spiritual realms since they feel more at home there than here on the earth plane. Most Thujas are over-sensitive to vibrations, impressions and different types of energies, and they often have a strong psychic ability, too. My perception of Thuja is that they have one foot in the spirit world, and one foot in the physical world and that they resist being here in the physical.

Nothing makes sense to them here. They are intuitive beings that have very little interest in reading, writing, logic, money making, social expectations and so on. They simply don’t understand the point of it all because they belong to a level of consciousness where none of this matters at all. But, because they are here now, they still have to try to fit in, but they are usually not very good at it.

Dr. Singh: We have known Thuja to have "Fixed ideas". What does this fixity mean and how does it present in Thuja.

Dr. Mati: To explain anything about Thuja, we have to keep in mind a being who is only half here, and half somewhere else. With this in mind, it is obvious that Thuja can’t possibly fit into a society that expects him to be totally here. He understands dimensions that we don’t, and we understand things that don’t matter to him. So, how can he possibly cope in this dimension that he doesn’t understand?

Thuja tries very hard to live up to people’s expectations, and when he fails to do so, he can get very frustrated. One of the ways he copes is by having fixed ideas. Fixed ideas are actually the other side of indecision, similar to Silicea. Thuja is often confused about things, but when they do make up their minds, they stick to it, stubbornly. This is because it takes so much energy to be able to come to a decision in the first place, that when a decision has actually been made, they don’t want to have to go through all that hassle again, so they stick to it, stubbornly!

Thuja’s tendency to be full of internal contradictions is another thing that is caused by the fact that he is not really in his body all the way. For example, Thuja has a strong sense of beauty, but may still feel ugly inside, which can seem like a contradiction to an outside observer. Therefore, BDD, body dysmorphic disorder can often be part of a Thuja picture. We immediately interpret this as an inner contradiction, but what may look like a contradiction to us, may not be a contradiction to Thuja at all. Thuja’s sense of beauty may be a lot more refined than what you find in the rest of us, and perhaps his own physical form is so far from what he perceives as beauty that he feels ugly as a result. So, what the rest of us perceive as a contradiction in the Thuja personality, may not be a contradiction at all. The fact is that most of us simply don’t have a high enough level of consciousness to really understand Thuja’s perception of reality.

Thuja is so sensitive that they feel this lack of understanding very strongly, and it often reinforces the perception that he came in with, that he really doesn’t belong here. He is not of this world, he doesn’t understand us, he doesn’t want to be here, and it can make him feel very depressed, and even suicidal at times. His life may seem very meaningless, purposeless and hopeless, and he may eventually go crazy and end up in a mental hospital. Lots of the people in mental hospitals are actually Thujas who couldn’t cope in a harsh and judgmental world, and when you talk to these people, you’ll often find that they are more plugged into the spiritual realms than any of the caretakers in the hospital are. They know and see things that most of us can’t even imagine, so we think they are crazy. But what if they are not actually crazy? What if we just don’t understand them?

Dr. Singh: Anguish, stress, Discontentment are the usual courses of life. But they markedly affect Thuja. What should she do to cope up with all this?
Dr. Mati: At least normal people understand how things work, so they are better able to cope than a Thuja who is basically just a stranger in this dimension. So, what can they do to cope better? They must either hire or find a friend who can help them cope by managing their time without distractions. A Thuja should never have a phone in his office, for example. He must be able to work undisturbed by distracting phone calls if anything is going to get done. His friend or secretary must give him only one task at a time, and she must also help him prioritize anything from bill paying to work tasks. Why? Because Thuja can only function if he is doing one thing at a time. More than one thing will put him into overload and stress, and then nothing gets done, and it isn’t in his nature to be disciplined enough to do it for himself. He must have help from someone who understands the earth plane, and who can organize his life for him.

Dr. Singh: Keeping in view, the fixidity of thoughts and abhorrence of transitions can be thought of in Autistic child. Have you had any experiences in your personal clinic about the same?

Dr. Mati: An extreme version of Thuja is what we find in Autistic children. In Autistic children, they don’t just have one foot in another dimension, they have most of their energy somewhere else, and only a thin thread left that keeps them in this dimension. One reason why Thujas are so susceptible to the negative effects of vaccinations is that a vaccine is basically a foreign energy form being inoculated into the body. It shocks the body, and in Thuja’s case, it may cause them to simply withdraw from this dimension even more. They didn’t want to be here in the first place, but having to deal with the invasion of a foreign energy form is simply too much, and they leave...

I haven’t dealt with Autistic children in my personal clinic, but I have certainly dealt with Thuja children that have been traumatized in different ways and seen how it affects their mental processes and coping mechanisms. It is in their nature to withdraw when things are too overwhelming, and their mental ability stops working properly. They may babble away one moment, and be unable to find any words the next. They may be stubborn one moment and have temper tantrums the next. So, basically, they end up becoming extremely difficult to live with, or to please.

Dr. Singh: I have seen some Thuja kids easily making mistakes in speaking and writing. Why it is so? Do they have poor comprehension or are they forgetful?

Dr. Mati: My answer to this will be not necessarily.

One of the things that we all take for granted in this dimension, is the ability to focus, function and get things done. But, if you live with half of your being in a dimension where these qualities are completely irrelevant, it may be hard to pull yourself down to the earth plane and focus, like we teach and expect here. So, we diagnose these people with ADD – attention deficit disorder, because that is what it looks like to us. They get so easily distracted, they forget what they were doing, or what they were going to do, and they jump from thing to thing and accomplish nothing.

But, what do we actually know about ADD? Could what looks like attention deficit actually be the opposite? I watched one of my Thuja clients and noticed that his focus was so total that everything else in his life seemed to disappear. He didn’t realize that it was getting dark, or that he was hungry or cold, or even that he needed to go to the bathroom because he was totally in the here now, and totally focused on whatever he was doing. But as soon as the phone rang, he got so distracted that he completely forgot what he had been working on, and got excited about whatever the phone conversation was about instead. So, he had lots and lots of unfinished projects, simply because his focus was so narrow that he could only focus on ONE thing at a time. He functioned a bit like a very young child – out of sight, out of mind... But the actual quality of his focus was more intense than most people can imagine – it certainly wasn’t a deficit...

So, the mistakes in speaking and writing that we see in Thuja could simply be a focus/distraction problem, since they are often highly intelligent beings. Their mental functions just work a little bit different than the rest of us, that’s all.

Dr. Singh: What happens when this touchy Thuja enters in to a relationship?

Dr. Mati: In relationships, Thuja is never easy to live with, even when they are able to cope somewhat. They may need help with decision making, and when they do make up their minds, they have to have their way, or else... Unless you really understand their psyche, it can easily drive you a bit crazy because Thuja’s behavior doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to the rest of us, and the normal reaction is to try to force them to “fit in” somehow.

However, trying to get Thuja to fit in will simply create more stress and frustration in his life. He feels like he is always trying so hard, and he still keeps failing on so many levels.

So, the best thing we can do to help Thuja, is to help him cope by helping him make decisions or by helping him organize his life and explain to him what is expected of him. In other words, it always comes down to priorities, and Thuja has very little ability to decide what is more important or what is less. To Thuja, everything is equally important, so he simply cannot decide for himself and make choices and decisions. Therefore, he must get help from someone who can tell him what is important at that moment.

So, in relationships, we can expect lots of misunderstandings and hurt feelings, for the simple reason that Thuja’s mate will live in a totally different perception of reality than Thuja, and there is very little chance that they will actually understand each other. Therefore, Thuja needs a partner of a high level of consciousness, someone who can stretch her mind to meet Thuja halfway, someone who can understand where he is at, and what he has to do to fit into society a little better. She has to be patient, mild mannered, understanding and compassionate, and not expect much in return from troubled Thuja. So, his relationships are never easy...

Dr. Singh: What are the bright and dark sides of a Thuja person?

Dr. Mati: To summarize, the bright sides of Thuja are:

A higher level of consciousness, understanding the spiritual dimension better than most, a refined sense of beauty, psychic ability, the rest of us have a lot to learn, if we can only listen...

The dark side of Thuja:

Depression, frustration, lack of ability to cope, stubbornness, confusion, indecision, very little understanding of life in the physical dimension, moodiness and temper tantrums, difficult to live with.

Dr. Singh: Thanks Dr. Mati for this wonderful lecture. I hope our readers will understand the background basics of Thuja’s touchiness.

Dr. Mati: Thanks Dr. Singh, it was nice discussing it with you.